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Post by Eielson on Aug 23, 2006 20:36:46 GMT -5
plus we kept our lb core and improved our passing game passing game generally doesn't improve your defense.  Although that might make them look better because Flutie was awful. And yup, as I said, great LB group and a great FS. |
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Post by Kris Johnson on Aug 23, 2006 20:38:24 GMT -5
Johnson is crazy though...haha
But, I have to say, Surge will get ate up this season.
By who? A player that they don't normally face last season....
FERNANDO GARCIA!?!?!
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Post by xraycat on Aug 23, 2006 20:38:26 GMT -5
yeah but colon willl be great and watch out for chuck wicker this season  |
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Post by Eielson on Aug 23, 2006 20:38:27 GMT -5
Okay, I kinda forgot about Schust but he isn't exactly superman, but still above average. I already mentioned Ty. Top 3 or 4 safety! OMG, WTF? How about- Gap, Smokes, Mckee, Baker, Dangerfield, and Young. That would be 7 and remember we only had 6 teams. And yes, an overrated corner that ate some weak WRs lunches. Above average? He's third best in the league. Gap - Pass defense only. Smokes - Run defense only. McKee - Good. Baker - Retired. Dangerfield - Good. Young - Pass D Only. Here are my safety rankings: 1. Dangerfield. 2. McKee 3. Jordan Allan 4. T'Jay Smokes Okay, we were talking about last year though. Before the ten mil contract and the Baker retirement he was about 7. |
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Post by watchthis on Aug 23, 2006 20:38:58 GMT -5
No, they have 1 amazing LB, 1 above average, and 2 horrible ones. Surge have 3 elite ones (Top 3 is elite for LB's of their position in my mind), 1 average one, 1 elite safety, and 4 other average-above average CB's
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Post by watchthis on Aug 23, 2006 20:39:51 GMT -5
I wasn't.
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Post by Eielson on Aug 23, 2006 20:40:42 GMT -5
No, they have 1 amazing LB, 1 above average, and 2 horrible ones. Surge have 3 elite ones (Top 3 is elite for LB's of their position in my mind) Wow, Johnson isn't exactly superman, yes I know you are talking about your MLB Schust but he isn't elite either. Thunder could easily switch to a 4-3. |
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Post by xraycat on Aug 23, 2006 20:41:06 GMT -5
No, they have 1 amazing LB, 1 above average, and 2 horrible ones
if you talking to us we have 3 above average or better lb's
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Post by Kris Johnson on Aug 23, 2006 20:41:18 GMT -5
I have a very good CB crew in Springfield too!
So, don't go bragging there.
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Post by Eielson on Aug 23, 2006 20:41:32 GMT -5
Yeah, but you brought up that you were the second best D last year and we were talking about that. |
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Post by Eielson on Aug 23, 2006 20:42:20 GMT -5
I have a very good CB crew in Springfield too! So, don't go bragging there. Safeties? Linebackers? Need them all for a great D. |
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Post by xraycat on Aug 23, 2006 20:43:18 GMT -5
true
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Post by Kris Johnson on Aug 23, 2006 20:50:01 GMT -5
Yeah, but we do have some great secondary...
Plus we have Smith and McNiel in our FS and SS spots.
So, we got it made homie..
Cb's include...
Kris Johnson
Leroy Jenkins
Carl Howard
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Post by watchthis on Aug 23, 2006 20:50:33 GMT -5
Oh yah, watch out for that killer rookie tandem at safety...
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Post by xraycat on Aug 23, 2006 20:52:22 GMT -5
i am terrified
they are going to kill me out there
come on kris im a te and faster then some of them
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Post by Kris Johnson on Aug 23, 2006 20:53:46 GMT -5
Smith is no rookie? McNiel is though, but a preety good one.
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Post by watchthis on Aug 23, 2006 20:55:25 GMT -5
Oh. He still isn't any good.
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Post by captobvious on Aug 23, 2006 23:08:00 GMT -5
Smith is a one-year renter who doesn't spend any money to make himself better. That makes him better than a rookie... but not by much.
McNeil? Wasn't he like the 12th DB drafted? That says it all, really.
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Post by captobvious on Aug 23, 2006 23:27:59 GMT -5
As for the Surge last season... worst secondary among all the playoff teams. Possibly it was the worst secondary in the entire league. John Smith was a ballhawking stud when he played Conway and Lucas... but who wasn't? When he played anyone else, he was a revolving door.
And there's a reason why you had to throw 10M at Jordan Allan. That was a guy with lots of great attributes, but all in the wrong places. Him and Ray Smith made up the slowest safety tandem in the league.
Mark Reid was the only real player in that secondary. That's why you guys got lit up like a Christmas tree by a first-year team in its fourth week.
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Post by Silver Fox on Aug 28, 2006 15:14:45 GMT -5
Silver Fox. Rushing record.
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too Ty.
