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Post by travis on Sept 23, 2006 14:30:31 GMT -5
If someone spends there money and then holds out, shouldnt they have to undo there money?
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Post by ty23 on Sept 23, 2006 14:32:15 GMT -5
Yes i believe they should......good idea Trav
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Post by captobvious on Sept 23, 2006 14:32:39 GMT -5
No way. That would turn into a mess. We'd have to remove all those attribute points, then add them back in later.
If a player is fined by his team for holding out, it'll come from the following season's salary.
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Post by falcon91 on Sept 23, 2006 14:34:03 GMT -5
capt any news on the betting rules because if baker is released he will $0 but will owe about $2mil in betting debts
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Post by travis on Sept 23, 2006 14:34:06 GMT -5
yah, but say baker gave himself the 8 million like this year bought all his attributes and then held out, next year his contracts less so he gets penalized less than what he spent
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Post by stlouisxrams on Sept 23, 2006 14:35:24 GMT -5
No way. That would turn into a mess. We'd have to remove all those attribute points, then add them back in later. If a player is fined by his team for holding out, it'll come from the following season's salary. wat do u mean by next year salary. as long as i know if u hold out, the next season ur not with their team anymore so how am i gonna give my next season salary ? |
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Post by ty23 on Sept 23, 2006 14:35:56 GMT -5
I have a question.......
I will use Holt as an example.
Say he holds out this year....does he become a FA or does he have to stay on that team till traded/contract runs out? Like in the NFL if a player holds out they dont play or get paid but they also cant sign with antoher team till there contract obligation with there originall team is up.....is that how it works here?
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Post by captobvious on Sept 23, 2006 14:37:26 GMT -5
The way it would work is, if you signed with another team for 4M, but you owed 4M to the Wolves as a fine for holding out the previous season, your new team would still pay the 4M, but you wouldn't get to spend it. That money would transfer to the Wolves.
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Post by falcon91 on Sept 23, 2006 14:37:33 GMT -5
yah, but say baker gave himself the 8 million like this year bought all his attributes and then held out, next year his contracts less so he gets penalized less than what he spent baker will probably be a FA next year because it's a team option and i cant see Lucas keeping him |
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Post by travis on Sept 23, 2006 14:37:39 GMT -5
no you can resign at the end of the season here
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Post by Deron Lucas on Sept 23, 2006 14:39:09 GMT -5
no, holts on my team till the contract runs out
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Post by travis on Sept 23, 2006 14:40:58 GMT -5
No the holdout rule states that at the end of the season they can leave, its just how it works...It has flaws but nothings perfect!
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Post by Deron Lucas on Sept 23, 2006 14:43:22 GMT -5
thats retarted. how dumb is this: ur rewarding the player for holding out. i mean cmon, thats rediculous. if u wanna hold out, pay the price (12.5 million in holts case, if he remains holding out ;D)
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Post by falcon91 on Sept 23, 2006 14:43:53 GMT -5
so once again the wolves will probably of gotten screwed..this time because of a holdout
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Post by captobvious on Sept 23, 2006 14:43:55 GMT -5
Actually, the holdout rule says they'd re-enter the draft pool at the end of the year.
That seems odd. I think that rule might have been written to specifically address season 1 draft choices who didn't want to sign with their teams. Methinks it's time to review that one.
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Post by travis on Sept 23, 2006 14:45:44 GMT -5
thats retarted. how dumb is this: ur rewarding the player for holding out. i mean cmon, thats rediculous. if u wanna hold out, pay the price (12.5 million in holts case, if he remains holding out ;D) Me agrees |
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Post by stlouisxrams on Sept 23, 2006 14:49:12 GMT -5
yea we need bearfan to comfirm this. by da way how did u find out it was 12.5. like how do u calculate it ?
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Post by Deron Lucas on Sept 23, 2006 14:52:18 GMT -5
well, if u do hold out, this would happen
next year salary-5 mil (fined 4.5 mil)
year after that-5 mil (fined 4.5 mil)
year after that-4 mil (fined 3.5 mil)
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Post by stlouisxrams on Sept 23, 2006 14:54:42 GMT -5
i believe i only get fined the next year salary because i become a free agent after the holdout. so it will be 4.5 fine.
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Post by travis on Sept 23, 2006 14:55:55 GMT -5
Once they restructure the hold out rule will determin your fine
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